If you're into the kind of SJ that's about having Bad Guys to use as punching bags, not improving human behavior, we prolly can't be frans.
@wirehead2501 Is that what it's about, or the window dressing? Language about picking sides doesn't get any more demonization-oriented.
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@chaosprime there are two sides because only one of them is safe. it sucks but that is how many people protect themselves. -
@wirehead2501 Parse clarification rq: one of the people is safe, one of the people is safe to be around, one of the sides is safe to be on? -
@chaosprime one of the communities (the one that does not enable abusers) is safe..r. ppl who apologize for abusers are less safe/trusted. -
@wirehead2501 *nodnod* Yeah, clearly. If the response is to try to silence the victim and defend the abuser, that's a serious hellhole. -
@wirehead2501 I'm pretty sure there's a huge gap between requiring that the abuse stop and constructing the abuser as The Enemy, though. -
@chaosprime i don't see construction as The Enemy - feel like that's a strawman. Julie just tweeted smth abt that. -
@wirehead2501 Failing to see how a forced choice of one "side" vs. another isn't about the people on the other "side" being The Enemy. -
@chaosprime i think you are choosing an overly politically-loaded reading of that term. you don't have to be my enemy to not be my ally. - 15 more replies
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