the purest embodiment of dharma is a prion which goes to show how fucked the association of "pure" with "good" is
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Replying to @chaosprime
Could you elaborate? A prion seems like a prototypical "pure replicator" and it certainly has a dharma, but conscious beings also have dharmas. The "goal" of a prion is maybe the "easiest to understand" but I don't see why this is the "purest"
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Replying to @Mellow_Mizz
purest in the sense of uncomplicated by any interacting factors
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Replying to @chaosprime
I disagree then. Prions require non-diseased proteins to replicate, so they can't "fulfill their dharma" alone. The trajectory of their adaptation is also guided by their environment, see belowhttps://journals.plos.org/plospathogens/article?id=10.1371/journal.ppat.1007093 …
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I propose virtual particles as a slightly more "self-fulfilling" example. They seem to appear anywhere in the universe at any time, so the environmental determinism is lower. In addition, even current non-existence is not enough to stop their future existence!
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I expect that as we consider objects that are less and less "determined" by their environment, we're going to get weirder objects. To put it the converse way, objects that we can easily understand are objects that have obvious connections to causal antecedents.
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Replying to @Mellow_Mizz
i would problematize the premise that dharma requires fulfillment or fulfillability
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Replying to @chaosprime
A self-fulfilling prophecy "In a logical system it is convenient enough to say that possibility passes over into actuality. In reality it is not so easy, and an intermediate determinant is necessary. That intermediate determinant is anxiety." -Kierkegaard, "The Concept of Dread"
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In other words: If we think knowing the present world-state is knowing how future outcomes will play out, then there's no need to be anxious. If we (like me) think that the future's potential hasn't been fulfilled yet, then we're aware of something unknowable and we feel anxiety.
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The self-fulfilling prophecy: If we think an object can have dharma without requiring it have fulfillability, then we have a worldview where anxiety is a useless feeling. If we think the object must have fulfillability, then we have a worldview where anxiety is necessary.
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if an object can have dharma without fulfillability and fulfillability is undecidable except in the attempt at fulfillment, anxiety is neither necessary nor useless
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After much thinking, I am persuaded by this point. I believe the fulfillability of an object's dharma is neither 100% nor 0% knowable. Therefore, anxiety is neither necessary nor useless but is "somewhat helpful." It is more helpful when the fulfillability is more knowable.
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