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combine the powers of that which is outside and that which is inside, and you will win glory in the whole world, obscurity leaving you at once

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    1. Peter Wang‏ @pwang May 13
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      Great essay on the dehumanizing effect of "appify-ing intimacy" and turning bodies into product. Many wonderful quotes & observations. (h/t @chaosprime) https://americanmind.org/essays/worse-than-a-crime-a-bumble/ …pic.twitter.com/jWim7W1WVS

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    2. Morgan Warstler‏ @morganwarstler May 13
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      Replying to @pwang @chaosprime

      Great aunt Dawn Powell (Algonquin Round Table) was a wild anti-suffragette who lived with her husband + boyfriend in Greenwich Village. "Whoring of mind and body can be a jolly, zestful end in itself but it is cheapened by those who find sentimental lying excuses for it."

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    3. Morgan Warstler‏ @morganwarstler May 13
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      The key part of her lifeview was everything is always a trade. She'd be disgusted women got suckered again into giving power away. Society still not ready for that convo.

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    4. Chaos‏ @chaosprime May 13
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      absolutely here for it the trouble is that if you start speaking of things as transactional people make it about this grindingly, soul-crushingly petty line item accounting shit whereas a healthily transactional relationship is a post-scarcity gift economy what up @jenphalian

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    5. Peter Wang‏ @pwang May 13
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      "Transacting", "trusting", "investing" are all aspects of "relating" and are demarcated by brighter or fuzzier lines depending on the particular domain of human interaction, and also the social and cultural context of the interactors. 1/n

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    6. Peter Wang‏ @pwang May 13
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      However... No matter where one chooses to draw the line, it seems to me that intimacy is almost definitionally the "zone of stuff that cannot be (or should not be) transacted". There is a fundamental tension between those two concepts. Increasing Intimacy means deeper relating.

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      Chaos‏ @chaosprime May 13
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      Replying to @pwang @morganwarstler @jenphalian

      i think i'm just using a broader scope of "transaction" where any interchange of anything, including information of any kind, is a transaction, like one sees in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transactional_analysis …

      9:48 AM - 13 May 2020
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        2. Peter Wang‏ @pwang May 13
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          ok, I was taking it in a narrower sense, and this is informed by my experiences in the business world. I believe there is a tension between transacting and relating. And this is OK; it's just where you demarcate your scope of concern.

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        3. Peter Wang‏ @pwang May 13
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          Transacting is interacting with a finite horizon on your care for the counterparty's outcome. And that has a social norm component: it's OK to give someone an old shoe and say you don't care about the shoe or about their life with the shoe.

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