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    Chaos‏ @chaosprime Nov 9
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    it is an interesting ethical question as to, when we as a society enact policies that provide crucial general benefits but impose catastrophic costs on some people at random, whether we will take collective responsibility for those costs or say "lol get fucked losers"

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      2. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Nov 9
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        once you've decided on the latter, of course, now you have an interesting technical question as to, if you have a legalistic social accounting tradition, how you prevent the losers from establishing claim for the costs imposed on them denying the costs ever happened could work

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      3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Nov 9
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        that would probably take building up an enormous edifice of shaming around even considering the possibility of such costs but that's hardly an excuse not to bust out a li'l elbow grease. 's just words, people will produce an endless stream of those just to hear themselves talk

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      2. loafingcactus‏ @loafingcactus Nov 9
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        At first I assumed “catoatrophic costs” was about some heavily endangered group such as disabled people. Because it would be quite absurd to call a cost to a billionaire that “catastrophic.” I am always a day late and a dollar short with Chaos jokes.

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      3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Nov 9
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        i mean, you were right the first time

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      2. Robot Bastard!‏ @Robot_Bastard Nov 9
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        Robot Bastard! Retweeted {ÁlexMárquezPérezMuñízDíazPúrasThaureaux ✊🏼 💐 ❣️ 🧧}

        The typical solution is to find some way to declare said random people morally undeserving of their wealth. Like this:https://twitter.com/parcha/status/1193156601676468229?s=21 …

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        {ÁlexMárquezPérezMuñízDíazPúrasThaureaux ✊🏼 💐 ❣️ 🧧} @parcha
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        For the most part, I consider them reparations. So yeah, no real cost.
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      3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Nov 9
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        it's a great game trying to figure out what people thought i was talking about based on their responses. often way harder than i would have guessed too

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      2. court ordered crafting system‏ @endlessbats Nov 9
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        what do you mean by "some people AT RANDOM," tho? it's not random, the catastrophic/unpayable costs deliberately fall on the people most in need and least able to actually pay them which doesn't even make any fucking sense, you can't fund an industry on unpaid bills, and yet

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      3. Cristian Rocca  🌐‏ @free_shilling Nov 9
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        Debt collection is an industry funded by unpaid bills.

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      1. Rai ling  🏴‏ @Railing56 Nov 9
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        That's pretty much the logic behind most government policy making. One size fits all solutions that usually end up benefitting certain groups at the expense of others. It's essentially a flattening of subjectivity.

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      1. (((William Funk)))‏ @wmfunk2848 Nov 9
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        See under: Dostoyevsky. But if you go that route, you have to then construct an ideological framework in which the marks actively deserved their fates, and that it is more than random.

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