unfortunate thing about crucial social affordances whose cost-benefit structures can't be articulated because articulating them would wreck their benefits is that when someone wants to tear them down because they've decided it's what's making them sad, you don't have a lot to say
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Nah, it's basically the difference between "can we eliminate shitfuckery completely", which is likely not a realistic engineering goal even if it is not "fundamental". But reducing it further (given that it was already appreciably reduces) is a worthwhile goal
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