if somebody tells you they hate the whole meme that when you're drunk you act like your true self, run
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Replying to @chaosprime
I mean, it's a ridiculously stupid meme. Why would a membranotoxic solvent make you any more "troo" to your "self"? Same shit-tier as "dreams are "your subconscious mind" "communicating with conscious one", just ad-hoc cool story
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Replying to @0K_ultra
a membranotoxic solvent would make you more "troo" to your "self" if the membranotoxic solvent is a behavioral disinhibitor
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Replying to @chaosprime
This implies that impulse control is somehow not part of "self" which is of course completely ridiculous. Besides the notion that alcohol is "just" a "disinhibitor" does not play well with existing evidence wrt its behavioral effects
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Replying to @0K_ultra
i would not entertain any claims that it is "just" a disinhibitor but claims that it isn't one have a tough row to hoe
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Replying to @chaosprime
Well, for one, being fairly nonspecific in its mechanism, it produces an array of effects that vary from individual to individual and even from case-to-case within individual, so the toughest row is backing a claim that alcohol NEVER has a behavioral effect X, for any X
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Replying to @0K_ultra @chaosprime
for two, to the extent it does have specific effects (stochastically, nebulously), it anxiolytic effects are well balanced with specific effects with regards to aggression and mood destabilization
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Replying to @0K_ultra @chaosprime
taking that together does not produce a picture of "drug brings out your true self" even if I accept, for the purpose of the argument, that reduction of "inhibitions" (impulse control?) brings out a "truer self"
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Replying to @0K_ultra
i am making no claims about whether alcohol exposes your true self i am making the claim that if somebody preemptively tries to neutralize the meme that it does, it's because they act like a real piece of shit when they're drunk but want you to blame the booze
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Replying to @chaosprime @0K_ultra
what if someone says this and they also avoid alcohol
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oh, something else is going on in that case, might be just as bad but not necessarily
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Replying to @chaosprime @0K_ultra
assuming someone acts shitty when drunk but fine when sober, don't see strong reason to assume shitty is their 'real' self and fine is 'fake' but if this happens and they still drink, then sober-them is making conscious decision to become shitty-them which is bad on its own
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