if somebody tells you they hate the whole meme that when you're drunk you act like your true self, run
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Replying to @chaosprime
I mean, it's a ridiculously stupid meme. Why would a membranotoxic solvent make you any more "troo" to your "self"? Same shit-tier as "dreams are "your subconscious mind" "communicating with conscious one", just ad-hoc cool story
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Replying to @0K_ultra
a membranotoxic solvent would make you more "troo" to your "self" if the membranotoxic solvent is a behavioral disinhibitor
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Replying to @chaosprime
This implies that impulse control is somehow not part of "self" which is of course completely ridiculous. Besides the notion that alcohol is "just" a "disinhibitor" does not play well with existing evidence wrt its behavioral effects
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Replying to @0K_ultra
i would not entertain any claims that it is "just" a disinhibitor but claims that it isn't one have a tough row to hoe
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Replying to @chaosprime
Well, for one, being fairly nonspecific in its mechanism, it produces an array of effects that vary from individual to individual and even from case-to-case within individual, so the toughest row is backing a claim that alcohol NEVER has a behavioral effect X, for any X
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Replying to @0K_ultra @chaosprime
for two, to the extent it does have specific effects (stochastically, nebulously), it anxiolytic effects are well balanced with specific effects with regards to aggression and mood destabilization
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Replying to @0K_ultra @chaosprime
taking that together does not produce a picture of "drug brings out your true self" even if I accept, for the purpose of the argument, that reduction of "inhibitions" (impulse control?) brings out a "truer self"
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Replying to @0K_ultra
i am making no claims about whether alcohol exposes your true self i am making the claim that if somebody preemptively tries to neutralize the meme that it does, it's because they act like a real piece of shit when they're drunk but want you to blame the booze
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Replying to @chaosprime
I dunno, I kinda think that you're reading too much into an entirely cromulent opinion on ethanol effects :) Also, given stochastic nature of alcohol effects it is generally advisable to "brace for shittiness" when interacting with drunk humans
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well, if i run across a person who attempts this preemptive neutralization and doesn't turn out to be a horrible person i would have been better for getting the fuck away from right then, i will try to remember to discuss the update of my priors
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Replying to @0K_ultra
clearly horrible person when drunk, horrible person with some skill at concealing it when sober
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