The question isn't why we have any particular given qualia; that's all easily answered physically. The question is why there's a "we" to have qualia in the first place.
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Who's looking at the HUD, and where did they come from?
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Replying to @ded_ruckus @chaosprime
The way I explain this (as per my threads) is that the 'we' is more fundamental than qualia. Only certain information is incident upon us; we can see only part of reality. That is our 'perspective', and it's a by-product of physics; not biology.
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Replying to @metaauthor @chaosprime
yes, but the question isn't "why do we see only what we see?", the question is "why do we see anything?" you still aren't answering: why is there an entity that can have experiences, whatever those experiences be?
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Replying to @ded_ruckus @chaosprime
I'm saying that the 'entity' predates any question of consciousness or qualia. A rock has a 'perspective' - it can physically only access some information. Add a brain to that rock and it can recognise that fact by processing information and writing to memory.
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Replying to @metaauthor @chaosprime
yes, but a rock (as far as we know) can't have experiences. where does the experience-having come from?
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Replying to @ded_ruckus @chaosprime
I think we may have different ways of coming at this. The rock (without a brain) cannot have experiences. We (without a brain) cannot have experiences. The experiences we can have are based on what information we can physically receive from our environment.
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Replying to @metaauthor @chaosprime
so does experience-having inhere in some particular information processing?
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Replying to @ded_ruckus @chaosprime
I am assuming that 'an experience' involves awareness of that experience. If you're talking about 'an experience' as in 'a physical happening', I would say yes, a rock can have 'experiences' (e.g. fall off a cliff) but cannot 'experience them'.
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Replying to @metaauthor @ded_ruckus
i mean it the same way you do that there may be something experiencing the same abstraction level of the rock that you're experiencing with regard to your brain which is probably pretty boring, but without an endocrine system why would you care
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this idea is found all over the place, but the main support for it is that it makes exactly as much sense for the rock to have an experiential perspective as it makes for anything else to
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