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    1. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Oct 21
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      people writing about consciousness be like, "first i will redefine the term 'consciousness' as something i can make empirical statements about, then see how just how long i can talk before people notice i'm not talking about what they came here to find out about"

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    2. the Bell Pepper‏ @oimoiles Oct 21
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      Even more cringe-worthy is when people redefine it to involve qualia and then erroneously insist "this is what we all think of when we say consciousness".

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    3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Oct 21
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      Chaos‏ @chaosprime Oct 21
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      okay then people who use "consciousness" to mean "cognition" or "self-modifying cognition" or "video cameras pointed at mirrors" or what-have-you what is their term for having a subjective point of view that experiences qualia

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        2. June “Wakalix”, reluctant Heart player‏ @TWakalix Oct 21
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          that concept is Invalid and Incoherent and does not deserve additional wordspace

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        3. neurotypical silver medal snav‏ @qorprate Oct 21
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          I agree with chaos' main complaint but I also don't like the idea of qualia

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        2.  🎄 🍄 manic festive dream goblin  🍄 🎄‏ @goblinodds Oct 22
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          i'm only just beginning to understand the word "qualia" but it seems to me that this subjective point of view is covered by "self-modifying cognition"? i assumed "consciousness" specifically referred to "self-aware cognition" (idk if there's a difference)

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        3.  🎄 🍄 manic festive dream goblin  🍄 🎄‏ @goblinodds Oct 22
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          *really, covered by any form of "cognition"

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        2.  🏴ⒶWKS  🏴‍☠️  😷 ☂️‏ @neuralculture Oct 21
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          well to start with we'd have to spend a few hours talking about what subjective means...

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