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    Chaos‏ @chaosprime Oct 21
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    people writing about consciousness be like, "first i will redefine the term 'consciousness' as something i can make empirical statements about, then see how just how long i can talk before people notice i'm not talking about what they came here to find out about"

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      2. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Oct 21
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        Chaos Retweeted Lucio Martelli

        that would be how we get into this miserable situation, yes well illustratedhttps://twitter.com/LucioMM1/status/1186369090669166601 …

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        Lucio Martelli @LucioMM1
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        If you can't make empirical disprovable statements about something then all questions about it and all discourse around it is a waste of time and you are literally talking about nothing
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        Chaos Retweeted Chaos

        anybody got something for me on this onehttps://twitter.com/chaosprime/status/1186392009080299520 …

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        Chaos @chaosprime
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        okay then people who use "consciousness" to mean "cognition" or "self-modifying cognition" or "video cameras pointed at mirrors" or what-have-you what is their term for having a subjective point of view that experiences qualia
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      2. the Bell Pepper‏ @oimoiles Oct 21
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        Even more cringe-worthy is when people redefine it to involve qualia and then erroneously insist "this is what we all think of when we say consciousness".

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        pic.twitter.com/5tdEkDOu6V

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      2. OκULTRA XP 🧿‏ @0K_ultra Oct 21
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        I'm pretty sure it's the correct approach and also pretty sure my view of "consciousness" as really lame IPC bus, maybe grimly merged at the hip with some kind of scheduler, will be vindicated

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      3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Oct 21
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        it's the correct approach for some purposes that's perfectly likely to be what it does that's important, for sure, the interesting part would just be how it is that one of those has a point of view and experiences qualia

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      2. Mike Schiffer‏ @mikeschiffer Oct 21
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        See also: free will.

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      3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Oct 21
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        oh my fucking god yes why do people think that a (reasonably interesting) theorem where if people have free will, it's implied that elementary particles have free will, proves that people have free will??? WHY

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      2. God‏ @temporalfuck Oct 21
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        ur great but this is nonsense

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      3. God‏ @temporalfuck Oct 21
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        lmao i just realized ur joking i was typin up a point as to why consciousness, ultimately, can only be represented by empiricaal evidence then i was like oh

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