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    1. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Oct 19
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      Chaos Retweeted Mark Ledwich

      "autism-light" and "autism-proper" is probably a nicer schema than what i say, which is "internet autism" and "real autism"https://twitter.com/mark_ledwich/status/1185761417544130560 …

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      Mark Ledwich @mark_ledwich
      This awareness only applies to autism-light where it is important that people are aware and can accommodate it. But this is also erasing autism-proper and sigmatizing parents, doctors, researches who want to prevent this pathology. Be skeptical of neurodiversity activism. https://twitter.com/mykola/status/1112883937272107008 …
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    2. Nocturne‏ @Nocturnal_biped Oct 19
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      Have you written somewhere about this?

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    3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Oct 19
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      no

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    4. Nocturne‏ @Nocturnal_biped Oct 19
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      Was worth a try ;) I'm at a loss with all these discussions about autism. Neurodiversity vs proper autism etc.

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    5. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Oct 19
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      what problem are you trying to solve?

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    6. Nocturne‏ @Nocturnal_biped Oct 19
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      No specific problem. Just trying to follow what's going on and having a hard time doing so. Can you tell me what you mean by internet and real life autism?

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    7. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Oct 19
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      "real", not "real life". by internet autism i mean Asperger's syndrome, though of course we somehow can't say that any more since the DSM is the boss of us. by real autism i mean the kind where you're disabled enough that you're not going to stay alive without accommodations

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    8. Nocturne‏ @Nocturnal_biped Oct 19
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      There's definitely a huge difference between those two but calling one of those internet autism suggests that Asperger's or PDD-NOS isn't real. I don't get why you'd want to say that?

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    9. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Oct 19
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      that's why my schema isn't nice i would generally not want to say that, which is why you won't see me mentioning it much, but when i do i would do it in order to draw a clear distinction that's reflective of how people actually think about the matter, unkind as it may be

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    10. Nocturne‏ @Nocturnal_biped Oct 19
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      Don't worry about nice, worry about true. I don't know who people refers to. Do you think Asperger/PDD-NOS is real and/or autism? I still don't follow

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      Chaos‏ @chaosprime Oct 19
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      it doesn't refer to anyone; it refers to a model of social cognition that you may not have. if you read about reputation you'll run into mention of a sort of "what we think other people think" phenomenon crucial to it; this lives where that lives yes; maybe

      10:47 PM - 19 Oct 2019
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        1. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Oct 19
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          to expand, Asperger's/PDD-NOS is an actual thing that's etiologically related to what was historically called "autism", at a lower level of severity. whether that means it *is* autism is a question that's more about insurance coverage than anything else

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        2. Nocturne‏ @Nocturnal_biped Oct 19
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          This goes over my head

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        3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Oct 19
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          k; it boils down to the stereotype being that when people on the internet talk about their autism, they mean something sufficiently mild that it's a great irritation to parents of severely disabled children that they call it "autism" and potentially threaten their resource access

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