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    1. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 16 Sep 2019
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      there seems to be this common junior-to-midlevel programmer thing where they got confused once by static vs. instance methods so they decided that static methods are MORALLY WRONG and we have to do (new Foo()).bar() for everything even if it has zero interaction with object state

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    2. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 16 Sep 2019
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      now, objects have the relation of code and data to drive their organization, which feels like *purpose*. compared to this, classes that only serve as containers for static methods feel empty and fake, bound only by human organizational concerns

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      Chaos‏ @chaosprime 16 Sep 2019
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      this leads various of my esteemed colleagues to identify such classes as a vile antipattern, feeling instinctively that merely grouping things for their own convenience to be an impure and inelegant motivation unto them i say, verily, thine own self transcend

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      • Nadeem Mohsin Wizard needs coffee Junk Shaman Log, Drunk in a Dwarf Bar aen💀r 🍞🌹☭⚧🔮 Redneck James Pitt do better Benzo Ferreira
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        2. ø‏ @destroyvegas 16 Sep 2019
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          correct me if i'm wrong but to me the entire point of OOP abstractions is to reduce verbosity by grouping "impure"/"inelegant" styles of data sets/operations within easy-use constructs

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        3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 16 Sep 2019
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          i mean that sounds plausible, i plause the hell out of it

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        2. 𝕭𝖊𝖑𝖑𝖉𝖆𝖓𝖉𝖞 𝕾𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖓𝖊‏ @smart_intellecc 16 Sep 2019
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          But... in python... the class is an object, so...

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        3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 16 Sep 2019
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          it's nice of Python to give people a safe space where the bad static methods can't hurt them

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        1. The Holy Qu'ran (tine)‏ @thisguyheisaguy 16 Sep 2019
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          don't make me dig up that PR chaos!

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        1. Log, Drunk in a Dwarf Bar‏ @logfromblammo 16 Sep 2019
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          Only a problem if you need the method to be in an instance so you can switch strategy at run time. But then, of course, you have those who will expect that will be needed every time. The problems always arise from the wizards that never really understood how the magic works.

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        1. Dedicating Ruckus‏ @ded_ruckus 16 Sep 2019
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          tbf if you've got a language with a better way of namespacing functions, you should use that but if classes are the only way you can namespace, then namespace away

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