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    Chaos‏ @chaosprime Sep 16
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    there seems to be this common junior-to-midlevel programmer thing where they got confused once by static vs. instance methods so they decided that static methods are MORALLY WRONG and we have to do (new Foo()).bar() for everything even if it has zero interaction with object state

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      2. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Sep 16
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        now, objects have the relation of code and data to drive their organization, which feels like *purpose*. compared to this, classes that only serve as containers for static methods feel empty and fake, bound only by human organizational concerns

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        this leads various of my esteemed colleagues to identify such classes as a vile antipattern, feeling instinctively that merely grouping things for their own convenience to be an impure and inelegant motivation unto them i say, verily, thine own self transcend

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      2. χ‏ @xiphiness Sep 16
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        This sounds absurdly costly for bad ergonomics depending on constructor and way the language allocates memory unless the compiler anticipates such stupidity.

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        strong agree i kind of have to restrain myself from going on tirades all the time about how """modern""" languages train people to treat malloc as a free operation

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      2. Alex K‏ @alexkyllo Sep 16
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        "Class that's just a container for static methods" is an antipattern, but it's one that Java/C# give you no tools to solve

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        it's fine PHP solves that with global functions classes that are just containers for static methods are fine

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      2. sigfig‏ @sigfig Sep 16
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        this is the impulse that drives people to fp land looking for great architecture wisdom only to realize too late that we don't know shit about commercial software architecture and never will

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      2. Anya‏ @_Iyalei Sep 16
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        OOP offers a wide variety of solutions to these problems, most of which would not exist without OOP.

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        That stands for Ouroboros based programming, btw.

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