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    1. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Aug 5
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      if only there were a way to respond to right-wing politicians and journalists being shitty other than loading their shittiness into Photoshop and hitting Color > Inverthttps://twitter.com/alexkyllo/status/1158380866378190848 …

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      That is due to reactionary politicians and journalists reserving mental illness language for white male shooters and reserving terrorism discourse for non-white shooters
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    2. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Aug 5
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      it's honestly sickening that if you even talk about mass shootings and mental illness in the same breath, you are instantly assumed to be talking about using diagnosis to take rights away from people, not increasing access to care and improving public mental health outcomes

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    3. relaxed as all getout‏ @TRULY_RELAXED Aug 5
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      thank you for being brave enough to delve into this in ways im too cowardly and low-insight to speak about except in vague subtweets

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    4. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Aug 5
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      it's not making me feel great tbh

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    5. relaxed as all getout‏ @TRULY_RELAXED Aug 5
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      yeah i didnt figure so but youre right

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    6. Font of Augurs‏ @MeFromBefore Aug 5
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      yeah, +1 brave and +1 insightful

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    7. Font of Augurs‏ @MeFromBefore Aug 5
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      my take: A. if you can convince someone of an absurdity, you can get them to commit atrocities B. holding incorrect (absurd) beliefs is not mental illness

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    8. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Aug 5
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      i don't think that's really true for the usual, epistemic usage of "believe", though i think the convincing has to go very deep before the atrocities are enabled, atrocities that haven't been socially normalized at least and that that convincing isn't all that unlike a disease

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    9. Font of Augurs‏ @MeFromBefore Aug 5
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      yes, this is where language clouds the discussion. Memetic infection behaves very much as a contagious disease, but is different from mental illness that is typically viewed as a “hardware problem” as opposed to a software one.

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    10. Font of Augurs‏ @MeFromBefore Aug 5
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      And I strongly disagree that you need a hardware problem to become a mass murderer.

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      Chaos‏ @chaosprime Aug 5
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      Replying to @MeFromBefore @TRULY_RELAXED

      not what is normally thought of as a "hardware problem", certainly the trouble is that our software is implemented not via transient storage Turing machine but via field programmable hardware, so software problems are hardware problems

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      • Miguel 🇧🇷🤝🇨🇳 neurotypical silver medal snav anaxiocrat Matt "bicameral" Olson Molten Steel Diamond-Grouping 🙃👩🏾‍💻👩🏾‍🚀🤖🐍🦄🍍🏎️🎛️🎹🚩🏳️‍🌈🤔 Adem relaxed as all getout
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        2. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Aug 5
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          Replying to @chaosprime @MeFromBefore @TRULY_RELAXED

          jesus i never really processed before that that means it's nearly trivial to think yourself into an attractor basin that you can't think yourself out of again it's a fucking miracle any of us are even marginally functional

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        3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Aug 5
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          explains why that exact pattern is such a common thing to observe though

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        2. Font of Augurs‏ @MeFromBefore Aug 5
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          indeed. how about “a problem caused by memetic input,” then? (of course as I don’t believe in free will, this entire discussion is purely academic ;-)

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        3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Aug 5
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          oh, yeah, free will isn't even a coherent concept, but whaddaya gonna do but keep on feeling just as if you're making choices there are definitely characteristic differences between memed-in problems and problems from the hardware getting built wonky or whatever, yeah

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