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    1. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Aug 5
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      the issue of mental illness in context of mass shootings is complicated, despite shooters generally being thoroughly fucked in the head, by the commitment on the woke left that mental illness, being a term of sympathy, is reserved for victim-coded people

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    2. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Aug 5
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      that is, people of oppressed identities can be mentally ill; cishet white males don't have mental illness, they have toxic masculinity and racism instead. this follows from the term calling for resources to be allocated to help; heretical resource allocation must be stamped out

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    3. Prianna Ahsan‏ @asphyxiac Aug 5
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      I don’t know that many folks, left leaning or not, would classify Islamic terrorists as mentally ill. I’ve mostly seen that label applied to non-Islamic domestic terrorists (by both sides) irrespective of race.

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    4. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Aug 5
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      yeah, and that's interesting because while racism is obviously in it, it's not just that. the existence of a suicide agent indoctrination program going back to Hasan i Sabbah puts us in "brainwashing" territory, which for some reason we don't think of as a form of mental illness

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    5. Prianna Ahsan‏ @asphyxiac Aug 5
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      Without sounding like I’m navel gazing here, is it really brainwashing? Or is it a valid but socially unacceptable ideology?

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      jeez, how do we even tease those apart? the procedure i Sabbah is reputed to have used, involving drugs and intentionally falsified reality, is identifiably brainwashing, but my impression is that all that has survived of that is the conclusions people were led to reach from it

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      can you brainwash people just with memes and social cognition? pretty sure, yeah, but if you stick to that it'll always be deniable

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      Chaos‏ @chaosprime Aug 5
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      if it is interpreted as strictly religious ideology, though, that would absolutely cut off any possibility of calling it "mental illness"; theists do NOT care for opening up the door to their own theism being labeled such

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        2. Prianna Ahsan‏ @asphyxiac Aug 5
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          The other question, when does belief (spiritual or otherwise) become delusion?

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        3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Aug 5
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          oh, immediately, the relevant questions are how radical a departure from the empirical it is, how radical a departure from social norms it is, what kinds of things you'll need to do to maintain it

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