another service our antinatalist friends perform! normative rationalism proceeds by palming a card, reasoning to a point where an emotive judgment is elided because it's assumed to be universal; antinatalists show no such response is in fact universalhttps://twitter.com/chaosprime/status/1150605408454815745 …
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Replying to @chaosprime
People who wring their hands about whether or not they can strictly reason their way to something being right or wrong tend to have the weakest moral judgment. You would think the parable of Solomon and the two mothers would have sunk in by now
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Replying to @ThePatanoiac @chaosprime
What do you mean, “weakest”? The only way I can interpret this sensibly is if you think there’s an objective morality that you access through intuitions and “rational thinking” obscured those intuitions. (Or maybe a personal morality accessed through intuitions?)
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For simple problems, this might be true, but I think people tend to oversimplify moral questions. The best way to know which action is best is to know what each action will lead to, which requires rational thinking.
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Your moral intuitions can guide the outcome analysis (because you can’t analyze everything), and they are required to determine which outcome is best. But moral intuitions are not *sufficient* in all cases.
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Replying to @TWakalix @ThePatanoiac
i absolutely concur that the methods of rationality are indispensable for analytic purposes. but one interesting tidbit is that if preference is only permitted at the beginning or end of the process, that allows very acute preference falsification pressure to be brought to bear
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Replying to @chaosprime @ThePatanoiac
How’s that? (Is this about how there’s a “bottleneck” where Pure Emotionless Rationality is expected when determining the outcome of a particular action?)
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Replying to @TWakalix @ThePatanoiac
"bottleneck" is a good word for it, though idk if you mean the same one i do. if the only time you get to inject your intuition/emotions/aesthetics is in picking axioms or desired outcomes, it'd be irrational not to expect there to be immense pressure to choose the ~right~ ones
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traditionally of course this has been addressed by doing rationality poorly and injecting intuition, emotions, and aesthetics all along the way in the form of bias and motivated reasoning, but i imagine we'd like to not enshrine that
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