“Society indoctrinates us all from birth, which I and millions of other people are very angry about.” It’s not very good indoctrination in this telling, is it?
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Replying to @Aelkus @TheAgeofShoddy and
The alternative to the tabula rasa hypothesis appears to here be “women’s nature guides them to cook and clean,” which hardly seems to be on firmer epistemic ground. And when challenged on this, human nature advocates insist that their claims are actually much more vague.
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Replying to @Aelkus @TheAgeofShoddy and
That may be, but that skepticism could easily coexist with the idea that bourgeois domesticity is something that is learned rather than encoded in our essential natures.
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Replying to @DavidPorkstar @Aelkus and
Seems to me human nature claims promote skepticism towards progressive and left wing ideologies while insisting that we ought not be skeptical of the idea that most of our existing norms and relations are the product of anything but our immutable natures.
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Replying to @DavidPorkstar @Aelkus and
is there any space between a "genetic predisposition" claim and a "human nature" claim?
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Replying to @chaosprime @Aelkus and
Absolutely! I totally believe certain patterns of behavior and learning are heritable and stamped on our ape brains from a million years of shambling around in the desert. I’m immensely skeptical of the conclusions people draw from that though.
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Replying to @DavidPorkstar @Aelkus and
well hell to the yeah on that, lol. i probably don't disagree with you on anything substantive then the progressive reaction to conservative/reactionary deployment of human nature claims has gotten to be reflexively attacking any predisposition talk, though. seems bad
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Replying to @chaosprime @Aelkus and
I think this is more of a popular discourse thing than something that’s really conquered the academy in the way, say, Pinker claims in the Blank Slate. Which isn’t to say that it isn’t real, but I don’t too many child development experts now claim NOTHING is heritable.
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it's definitely the popular discourse that i'm inadvisably mainlining. it might be interesting to look at how many child development experts are saying that anything *is* heritable where people can hear them, though
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Replying to @chaosprime @DavidPorkstar and
Kolmogorov complicity is much more a matter of what's unsaid than what's said
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