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    1. Mason  🏃🏻 ✂️‏ @webdevMason Jul 21
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      Reading books or building model trains is virtually never done in some arbitrary way; the mastery drive is pretty apparent in ever more complex mechanical/logistical train systems or an ever more interesting/complex set of models for the life of the mind to inhabit

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    2. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Jul 21
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      where one misses the boat is if one proceeds from the idea that it's one's actual social status that matters rather than the output of a black box that vaguely wants to evaluate social status but really just knows what it gets fed

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    3. Mason  🏃🏻 ✂️‏ @webdevMason Jul 21
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      Yeah, it's really important to recognize that the same phenomena exist on and are explainable in dramatically different ways on different layers. Evolutionary psychology trips up a lot of people — maybe most — this way

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    4. Matt Diamond‏ @mattdiamond Jul 21
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      Is the claim here that validation from other human beings isn’t intrinsically meaningful but is simply an input into a system that evolved a dysphoric response to a lack of this stimulus?

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    5. Mason  🏃🏻 ✂️‏ @webdevMason Jul 21
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      It's more like... I dunno, I think it can be helpful to remember that on an everyday basis, it doesn't really matter whether a god or an evolutionary process created you. If knowing the truth helps you figure out how to be a happy part of a communal positive feedback loop, cool

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    6. Matt Diamond‏ @mattdiamond Jul 21
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      I guess my concern about reductionism is that it implies that it would be a good thing if billions of people could take a pill that simulated the input of social validation and made it easy to live meaningless solitary lives. It just seems a bit Brave New World-ish.

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    7. Mason  🏃🏻 ✂️‏ @webdevMason Jul 21
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      I don't really know what to say; if you think I've argued anything like this I have to imagine you've been reading me in some manner that I wouldn't even recognize. I'm not even sure what to try to correct

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    8. Matt Diamond‏ @mattdiamond Jul 21
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      Sorry, I should've directed that tweet at @chaosprime instead of replying to you, as it was a response to his reductionist perspective on the value of human connection. I didn't mean to imply you shared that view. Apologies for the confusion here.

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    9. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Jul 21
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      weird to be regarded as having a reductionist perspective on anything, lol i, uh, do not mean to imply by paying particular attention right now to one particular self-destruct mechanism in human wetware that human connection has no significance beyond a hackable signal into it

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    10. Matt Diamond‏ @mattdiamond Jul 21
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      Matt Diamond Retweeted Matt Diamond

      I mean, that was the impression I got when you responded "yes" to the following tweethttps://twitter.com/mattdiamond/status/1153071050235813891 …

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      Matt Diamond @mattdiamond
      Replying to @webdevMason @chaosprime @bronzebarbarian
      Is the claim here that validation from other human beings isn’t intrinsically meaningful but is simply an input into a system that evolved a dysphoric response to a lack of this stimulus?
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      Chaos‏ @chaosprime Jul 21
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      oh, right, that makes sense. i didn't mean to be dismissing all broader meaning to human interaction ("intrinsic" aside), i thought we were addressing the specific context

      9:05 PM - 21 Jul 2019
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        1. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Jul 21
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          the assertion i meant to be making is that it doesn't intrinsically matter to this subsystem whether the input it's receiving comes from actual validation by other humans or not

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