The argument is self-refuting because anyone who falls for it fails to persist their lineage. In an atheist universe the only true morality is that which continues to exist. The logic is fine, the underlying assumptions are moronic.https://twitter.com/0x49fa98/status/1148681898043965440 …
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Replying to @0x49fa98 @chaosprime
hmm, see that more as a problem of practical enactment. for example, if he were to get ahold of some T1000s and exterminate the human race he would probably be right to do so. but of course that doesn't contradict what you said about the only morality = that which keeps existing
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Replying to @HarknessLocrian @chaosprime
He wouldn’t be right by definition because his premises are faulty
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Replying to @0x49fa98 @chaosprime
don't understand what you mean, sorry. also if he succeeds, or if someone convinced by him succeeds, isn't he right by the only morality in an atheist universe?
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Replying to @HarknessLocrian @0x49fa98
the other thing is that any true morality by these criteria is temporary because the Second Law isn't going to be repealed. so i mean if this is what people want to do, whatever
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i'm just mad because i think the important thing is what we do in the meantime and convincing people not to reproduce with marshmallow utilitarianism is just a fucking ludicrously boring unaesthetic thing to spend resources on
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Replying to @chaosprime @HarknessLocrian
The idea that the position is built on logic or morality is ludicrous. The fact is that having children is less hedonistic than living in an urban playground doing drugs & drinking & having barren relationships, so people who like benatar are just back-justifying their hedonism
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Replying to @0x49fa98 @HarknessLocrian
how cowardly. it's an insult to nihilistic hedonism to act as though it needs justification with such cringing measures
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Replying to @chaosprime @HarknessLocrian
Nevertheless I am certain it is the case. No one who is advocating anti-natalism actually *wants* to have children. The logic comes after the desire
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Not that it matters, but I know with certainty that this is not the case for some specific ANs.
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ascetic antinatalism gang: threat or menace
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