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    1. Zero HP Lovecraft‏ @0x49fa98 Jul 18
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      Benatar is a dunce cap in disguise

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    2. spleen‏ @HarknessLocrian Jul 18
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      why? because of the argument or because his preferred method of execution is laughably unrealistic? if that latter I agree but interested if someone's got a critique of the argument

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    3. Zero HP Lovecraft‏ @0x49fa98 Jul 18
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      The argument is self-refuting because anyone who falls for it fails to persist their lineage. In an atheist universe the only true morality is that which continues to exist. The logic is fine, the underlying assumptions are moronic.https://twitter.com/0x49fa98/status/1148681898043965440 …

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      Pain and pleasure are orthogonal to good and evil. There are good and evil pains, there are good and evil pleasures. Conflating them is the greatest fallacy of the moralist
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    4. spleen‏ @HarknessLocrian Jul 18
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      hmm, see that more as a problem of practical enactment. for example, if he were to get ahold of some T1000s and exterminate the human race he would probably be right to do so. but of course that doesn't contradict what you said about the only morality = that which keeps existing

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    5. Zero HP Lovecraft‏ @0x49fa98 Jul 18
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      He wouldn’t be right by definition because his premises are faulty

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    6. spleen‏ @HarknessLocrian Jul 18
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      don't understand what you mean, sorry. also if he succeeds, or if someone convinced by him succeeds, isn't he right by the only morality in an atheist universe?

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    7. Zero HP Lovecraft‏ @0x49fa98 Jul 18
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      No, because he (and everyone else) ceased to exist. If the claim is might makes right then the first and most critical criteria for being mighty is existing

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    8. spleen‏ @HarknessLocrian Jul 18
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      the claim is that it's better never to have been. so making that a reality is succeeding/fulfilling the claim. it's success if it's actually accomplished, rather than just removing people susceptible to the argument from the gene pool.

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    9. Zero HP Lovecraft‏ @0x49fa98 Jul 18
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      Right and it’s a fucking idiotic claim because it’s built on a morality that thinks pain and pleasure are more important than existence/oblivion

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    10. spleen‏ @HarknessLocrian Jul 18
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      ok still not convinced we shouldn't try to bring about nuclear armageddon but whatever

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      Chaos‏ @chaosprime Jul 18
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      it has some selling points but one is forced to doubt that it would be as aesthetic as its marketing materials portray it

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