that's true, but the appeal of being a leader is very obvious and might leave those without that personality type frustrated precisely for knowing it's a role they will never play
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Replying to @erin_nerung @hashmalign
but there are other paths for the power-hungry who don't have the profile of a leader, and these paths have their own perks that might be overlooked as these people focus too hard on the glamorous rock star charles manson position
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Replying to @erin_nerung
true, but what i meant is most likely these paths fills themselves, the advisor may try for eminence grise, because it knows it cant be the rockstar and also values more what is done in the dark/the advantages you said
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Replying to @hashmalign @erin_nerung
It's more the that the path chooses the people than the people choose the path
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Replying to @hashmalign
more seriously though - yes, but people will still struggle against the path they're more suited for, if they don't think it's very appealing (but i suspect you'd just say "yes and those people usually turn out ti be failures" to that)
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Replying to @erin_nerung @hashmalign
or, put a bit more elegantly, they wouldn't fill any roles - neither the ones they want nor the ones they can
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Replying to @erin_nerung @hashmalign
y'know how people with damaged self-images will lose interest in someone if that person is interested in them, since that person has now demonstrated their terrible taste? i wonder if the same dynamic applies to roles they're suited for; "if it's for me it must suck"
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Replying to @chaosprime @erin_nerung
the reverse may apply as well when it comes to self-loathing (probably why the depressed and confused thing as part of getting into a cult) as in "i suck so this must be the only role for me" although case you pointed is more interesting in the sense that it can breed leader envy
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people getting motivated by being more (in the hierarchy) for their hate of being what they should and not for the desire for the position itself, although those may be not that common, otherwise cult form would not be so "easily" repeatable
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Replying to @hashmalign @chaosprime
we need a new piece: Now That You've Established Your Cult, Here's How To Keep It From Getting Blown Up By The Necessary Mental Instability Of Your Followers
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Group therapy for Your Cult: Collective Bargaining with your Egregore
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