No observables can distinguish "heightening the contradictions" from simply acting wicked and maliciously.https://twitter.com/robinhanson/status/1046416114463502338 …
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Replying to @PereGrimmer
are secret diary entries detailing their benevolent, accelerationist ambitions observables
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Replying to @androgynandre
no, as wicked people would cover every base in ensuring they use the excuse of "i'm secretly pulling a xanatos double-secret mole operation to be good."
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Replying to @PereGrimmer
though, there are people who genuinely do this and many cases where, if executed, this is an effective strategy... so assuming the excuse is deceptive might not be a good default either. Maybe we parameterize their legitimacy by their bets in anonymous politic prediction markets
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Replying to @androgynandre @PereGrimmer
if you can parameterize with them they weren't that anonymous now were they
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Replying to @chaosprime @PereGrimmer
that’s right, true anonymity is immutable, authors of anonymous actions immediately have their memories wiped, their fingers contorted to confuse their keystrokes, their souls eviscerated of any dispositions that may ever reveal the truth. vote ? for a truly anonymous regime 2020
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Replying to @androgynandre @PereGrimmer
just sayin' if it can be deanonymized then a sufficiently wicked genius would have planted it anticipating its deanonymization
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Replying to @chaosprime @PereGrimmer
that was the problem with private diaries detailing benevolent, accelerationist intentions: everyone has incentive to write them just in case they get caught, even if they’re genuine.
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but then could there be a strategy to deal with people who claim they were really on your side all along, besides assuming all of them are lying (since we know sometimes acting as an agent-provocateur is a legitimately effective strategy)?
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the idea of anon prediction markets was to “give their diaries stakes”, so the effect of fabricating their actual attitudes (unlike a normal diary) will be commensurate to the effect of having their true attitudes revealed if their enemies win
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oh, gotcha. seems like it'd work reasonably well as long as people are fairly evenly matched with their enemies and don't have the spare resources to spend peacocking by betting against their interests
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Replying to @chaosprime @PereGrimmer
aye, it’d be on the winner to evaluate whether someone put up enough risk to match what’d happen to them if they were judged guilty
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Andre Retweeted Chaos
there are a lot of details that needa be hashed out but if you ever implement this it obviously has to work as a matching app: two anonymous agent-provocateurs, their livelihoods tied to the failure of each other’s factions


https://mobile.twitter.com/chaosprime/status/1001679042335199233 …Andre added,
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