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    1. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Jul 6
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      a protest has been lodged, "suddenly you aren't fighting wokeness?" i wouldn't say i'm fighting it, just trying to help provide paths for people to exit it when they're ready. there are lots of valid reasons for people to be doing it and they're the ones who know their lives

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    2. just adrienne for now‏ @adrienneleigh Jul 6
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      See, when people like you say this stuff i'm never exactly sure what it is you're *opposing*? Because you're ALREADY not a racist or misogynist shithead, so what in particular about a concept that is ultimately "trying not to be those things" that bothers you?

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    3. just adrienne for now‏ @adrienneleigh Jul 6
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      I mean, there's plenty not to like about some of the current orthodoxy among young authoritarian followers who happen to have seized on social justice as a raison d'etre; you'll get no argument for me on that point. (And "wokeness" is a stupid word.)

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    4. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Jul 6
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      that covers a lot of the territory right there for sure. using good causes as cover for cruel status games, treating handwavey abstractions as legitimate justification for hurting people who've done nothing wrong, continuously escalating conformity demands, lotsa stuff

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    5. just adrienne for now‏ @adrienneleigh Jul 6
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      You've read Altemeyer, i presume?

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    6. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Jul 6
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      on right-wing authoritarianism? just via secondary source discussion i think

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    7. just adrienne for now‏ @adrienneleigh Jul 6
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      Ohhhh. It's free online and you should absolutely read it for real. (And what Altemeyer means by "right-wing authoritarianism" isn't exactly what people think he means.) https://www.theauthoritarians.org/ 

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    8. just adrienne for now‏ @adrienneleigh Jul 6
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      One important takeaway, when it comes to "SJWs", is that there is a certain baseline population of authoritarian-follower types in LITERALLY ANY group of people.

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    9. just adrienne for now‏ @adrienneleigh Jul 6
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      And authoritarian followers don't care WHAT the cause is; it's basically all the same to them, as long as they have a position in the hierarchy.

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    10. just adrienne for now‏ @adrienneleigh Jul 6
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      (As an aside, I always find it amusing in the extreme that the % of authoritarian followers, as hypothesized by Altemeyer, is not far off of John Rogers' "27% crazification factor" http://kfmonkey.blogspot.com/2005/10/lunch-discussions-145-crazification.html …)

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      Chaos‏ @chaosprime Jul 6
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      lemme find out it's just Myers-Briggs ESTJs

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        1. just adrienne for now‏ @adrienneleigh Jul 6
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          :D It's not, really. Altemeyer's got a lot more research behind him than the astrology that is the MBTI.

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