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    1. OκULTRA XP 🧿‏ @0K_ultra Jun 24
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      Let me guess, the atlantpiss thing is "consciousness is magic and can't be reduced to molecules boinking around"?

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    2. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Jun 24
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      i'm slowly slogging through it, it's ponderous as fuck. so far it's absolutely eviscerated a pair of stunningly pathetic straw men and hinted at going the direction you indicate but also spoken against "weak mysterian arguments". waiting for the strong mysterian arguments

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    3. Elijah del Medigo‏ @AnUntimelyMan Jun 24
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      i'm waiting for a unified field theory which proves that the weak mysterian arguments and the strong mysterian arguments are the same thing

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    4. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Jun 24
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      right now we're setting up some kind of platform for argument based on the premise that materialist science only acknowledges that matter exists. you unscientific buffoons get out of here with this "energy" you keep talking about

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    5. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Jun 24
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      i'll believe in electromagnetic radiation when i see it

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    6. Elijah del Medigo‏ @AnUntimelyMan Jun 24
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      "here are some science things I personally find implausible, my desired solution is replacing them with unscientific things which are just as implausible"

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    7. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Jun 24
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      that's the forecast all right. right now he's saying straightforwardly true stuff about how neurophysiology cannot account for the existence of a subjective experiential point of view. i expect to start disagreeing with him when he gets to "God did it"

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    8. Elijah del Medigo‏ @AnUntimelyMan Jun 24
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      i think the mistake is attributing folk-scientific views to "Science". God isn't mentioned, though

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    9. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Jun 24
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      wow, that's cowardly. right now he's making a truly weak argument about intentionality (the relationship of perception to perceived kind) and non sequituring that into the second reassurance that humans are different from animals so farhttps://twitter.com/chaosprime/status/1140985182478114817 …

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      the metronomic regularity with which any scholarly work on human behavior reassures itself that something or another differentiates us from “the animals” is incredible who told you all that if you were no better than an animal you were going to sleep out behind the woodpile
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    10. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Jun 24
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      y'know it really is a nasty little trick to start from some plausible but broken premise and keep blathering on with it as a basis for so long that people have to at least build a model based on your premise if they want to keep engaging, which is most of selling it to them

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      Chaos‏ @chaosprime Jun 24
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      fuck me what a slog, barely a third of the way through, apparently what we're getting is speech act theory but for object perception and *waves hands* that's why ghosts

      9:41 AM - 24 Jun 2019
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        2. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Jun 24
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          okay i gave up. this shit is trying to do argumentum ad longitudinem and life is too short. our dude appears to be arguing a true thing, that neurophysical models don't explain our experience for shit, based on the worst arguments he could find and acting like it's Super Deep

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        3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Jun 24
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          and it has about as much bearing on what i was saying about status self-perception as the pope has on bears shitting in the woods

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