imagine my shame at linking to some miserable hole like that instead of a powerfully authoritative source like *looks at scribbled writing on hand* The New Atlantishttps://twitter.com/fleshfleche/status/1143077199123292160 …
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Replying to @chaosprime
Let me guess, the atlantpiss thing is "consciousness is magic and can't be reduced to molecules boinking around"?
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Replying to @0K_ultra
i'm slowly slogging through it, it's ponderous as fuck. so far it's absolutely eviscerated a pair of stunningly pathetic straw men and hinted at going the direction you indicate but also spoken against "weak mysterian arguments". waiting for the strong mysterian arguments
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Replying to @chaosprime @0K_ultra
i'm waiting for a unified field theory which proves that the weak mysterian arguments and the strong mysterian arguments are the same thing
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Replying to @AnUntimelyMan @0K_ultra
right now we're setting up some kind of platform for argument based on the premise that materialist science only acknowledges that matter exists. you unscientific buffoons get out of here with this "energy" you keep talking about
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Replying to @chaosprime @0K_ultra
i'll believe in electromagnetic radiation when i see it
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Replying to @chaosprime @0K_ultra
"here are some science things I personally find implausible, my desired solution is replacing them with unscientific things which are just as implausible"
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Replying to @AnUntimelyMan @0K_ultra
that's the forecast all right. right now he's saying straightforwardly true stuff about how neurophysiology cannot account for the existence of a subjective experiential point of view. i expect to start disagreeing with him when he gets to "God did it"
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Replying to @chaosprime @0K_ultra
i think the mistake is attributing folk-scientific views to "Science". God isn't mentioned, though
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wow, that's cowardly. right now he's making a truly weak argument about intentionality (the relationship of perception to perceived kind) and non sequituring that into the second reassurance that humans are different from animals so farhttps://twitter.com/chaosprime/status/1140985182478114817 …
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Replying to @chaosprime @0K_ultra
y'know it really is a nasty little trick to start from some plausible but broken premise and keep blathering on with it as a basis for so long that people have to at least build a model based on your premise if they want to keep engaging, which is most of selling it to them
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fuck me what a slog, barely a third of the way through, apparently what we're getting is speech act theory but for object perception and *waves hands* that's why ghosts
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