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    1. Dan listens to the churning atmosphere‏ @danlistensto May 2
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      this is the real meta-story. the reason the Star Wars films worked at all when they were originally released was because they successfully utilized the mytho-poetic storytelling style. This shouldn't be surprising considering the influence of Joseph Campbell on Lucas. https://twitter.com/Aelkus/status/1123939567336345600 …

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    2. Dan listens to the churning atmosphere‏ @danlistensto May 2
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      The prequels, and the new trilogy, are violations of this mode of story-telling and forcefully shift it from being a mythological story into being a concrete, linear, story. I.E. what happened was a mode shift from mythography to (fictional) historiography.

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    3. Dan listens to the churning atmosphere‏ @danlistensto May 2
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      myths don't require meticulous attention to detail and filling in missing pieces retroactively. nobody ever asks "what color underpants was Lancelot wearing?" because it's obviously not relevant. in histories, though, we might wonder about it.

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    4. Dan listens to the churning atmosphere‏ @danlistensto May 2
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      surely Lancelot was wearing underpants, and there was a discrete pair of underpants he was wearing on each particular occasion, right? if we are diligent historians we might do research, perhaps even excavate some artifacts, and find the underpants, and then put them in a museum.

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    5. Dan listens to the churning atmosphere‏ @danlistensto May 2
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      this is where we've reached with Star Wars. somewhere out there is a fan debate raging on a forum about Rey's bra size, or whether or not Chewbacca is dying his fur (should't he be gray by now?), or any other absurdity that is an element of historical life but not mythical story.

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    6. Dan listens to the churning atmosphere‏ @danlistensto May 2
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      it's a sign of the times. when the cultural imagination is complete tapped out it's myths transform into histories and become auto-farcical bullshit, which still resonates with people, because that's what everything else feels like too.

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    7. Dan listens to the churning atmosphere‏ @danlistensto May 2
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      a restoration of cultural imagination would lead to explosion of half-baked mythos' popping up all over the place. leave room for the imagination of the audience so they can make it their own. Star Wars is no longer leaving room for the imagination of the audience. It's done.

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    8. Chaos‏ @chaosprime May 2
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      remember though if you protest the decay of the mythic into the hyperprosaic in terms too strong you will make everybody VE-RY AN-GRY http://www.warrenellis.com/m-john-harrison-on-worldbuilding/ …

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    9. Dan listens to the churning atmosphere‏ @danlistensto May 2
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      what if that's good?

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      Chaos‏ @chaosprime May 2
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      *extremely rational voice* they burned Giordano Bruno at the stake too

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        2. Dan listens to the churning atmosphere‏ @danlistensto May 2
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          heh, that reminds me of one of my close encounters with high strangeness that was instigated by my purchase of an M John Harrison novel on Amazon. The novel "Light" arrived with a bookmark with the Great Invocation written on it, this one, from Lucis Trust

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          https://www.lucistrust.org/the_great_invocation …

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