sometimes though when you live in a society that society decides that obligation exists independently of your acceptance of it
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Sorry I missed this reply earlier. I personally don't understand how it changes things at all, but it's often framed as a laudable and positive social interaction, as in the case of "an intervention."
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Absolutely, I agree that if a person hasn't examined the consequences of their choices and actions, this is important. But if they have, and have decided to persist... they've made their choice.
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