my behavior is always negotiable, but when you open a negotiation by moralizing about it, you've already told me that you expect to get whatever you want for free, so there's very little reason to *not* treat you like a loudmouth asshole
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Replying to @chaosprime @lunavis
If someone takes "you're doing thing X, it hurts people in this way, can you maybe consider not doing that" as an attack in every case (as in, without specific evidence of disingenuity or flaws in the statement's logic) then I feel safe assuming they're trash.
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It's hard not to see such people as caring more about scoring points in their interactions than not harming people, and I don't really want to spend too much time interacting with people who are constantly imposing an adversarial frame.
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I'm hopefully being precise enough here to allow for the possibility that you are not such a person, and that this is not what you meant.
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Replying to @hikikomorphism @lunavis
it is not, illustrating consequences isn't at all what i mean by moralizing (possibly invalidly), what annoys me is more leaning on social convention and its implied threats without any acknowledgement that somebody may be using different values, not doing your values poorly
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moralizing is when your bitching isn’t sufficiently consequentialist
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didn't put it better myself
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