they don't even try to talk about positive punishment and negative punishment in textbooks even though the distinction is just as meaningful there because people's brains just grind to a halt on the phrases
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my Dad used to go on about that a lot and it always seemed byzantine. I get it but I also don't see much purpose.
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what kind of purpose are you looking for here
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I wanted to say "Nu-uh, I don't' And then I realized that my own brain was trying to lie to me
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sneaky fuckers aren't they
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It's a matter of whether we're trying to increase or decrease the frequency of the state or behavior.
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...the positive and negative aren't? the reinforcement or punishment are
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I fudged “negative reinforcement” (thinking of “negative punishment”) in a conversation recently and I’ve been positively punishing myself ever since
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but then also, a positive feedback loop reinforces a change, a negative feedback loop returns to the ground state. then counterintuitively, you can get a negative feedback loop with positive punishment and a positive feedback loop with negative reinforcement.
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given the current state of neuroscience and ML, I honestly prefer the control theory senses of positive and negative over the cybernetic senses, but that might just be me.
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