all reasoning is motivated, calling *some* reasoning motivated is just a low-effort dismissal of that reasoning tbh
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Replying to @palecur
is there a better term i should use for starting with your conclusions and working backward from them
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Replying to @palecur
it's really not and saying it is is a miserable excuse for a crap behavior
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Replying to @chaosprime
honestly I do think it's the default human mode and not remarkably objectionable; starting from the conclusion is a good way to reach the conclusions you need to reach, and if you can't build a good chain of reasoning it's a good sign you need to pick a different conclusion.
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Replying to @palecur
as far as i can tell you've conflated induction with motivated reasoning, which is... awful
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Replying to @chaosprime @palecur
let's say some economic tragedy has happened, and you bring a couple of economists into a room. one is a broadly trained guy with no particular ideological commitments
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Replying to @chaosprime
do guys with no particular ideological commitments come from the same store where i get my massless pulleys and frictionless ropes
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Replying to @palecur @chaosprime
It is actually possible to distinguish between one's own preferences and desires and that which is supported by credible evidence. There are always going to be biases but it's really strange to assert that because biases exist then evidence based reasoning is impossible.
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The tldr is that you can't just trust someone when they say they're applying non-motivated evidence based reasoning, parallel construction exists and they may not even consciously realize they're employing it.
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oh for sure. trusting people's claims about their own epistemic process? baahahahaha
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