at some level of sociodynamics poisoning, it becomes challenging not to dismiss out of hand any proposition that neatly fits a powerful cultural formation's preferred narrative, on the assumption that it's a febrile product of motivated reasoning
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Replying to @chaosprime
all reasoning is motivated, calling *some* reasoning motivated is just a low-effort dismissal of that reasoning tbh
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Replying to @palecur
is there a better term i should use for starting with your conclusions and working backward from them
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Replying to @palecur
it's really not and saying it is is a miserable excuse for a crap behavior
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Replying to @chaosprime
honestly I do think it's the default human mode and not remarkably objectionable; starting from the conclusion is a good way to reach the conclusions you need to reach, and if you can't build a good chain of reasoning it's a good sign you need to pick a different conclusion.
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Replying to @palecur
as far as i can tell you've conflated induction with motivated reasoning, which is... awful
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Replying to @chaosprime
are...those different? literally nobody has ever explained the term 'motivated reasoning' to me in a way that made sense, they just *keep using it* and assume I'll get it from context, which, uh, hasn't been helpful.
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Replying to @chaosprime
seems like a lot of work to avoid using a common-parlance term like 'cherry-picking evidence' honestly
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they exist at pretty comparable frequencies of parlance to my way of thinking but ymmv i guess. cherry-picking evidence is a thing you do to support your motivated reasoning, it's closely related but not identical
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