I specifically brought this up! https://twitter.com/baroquespiral/status/1107552416428220416 … you're confusing "context dependence" with "intuitive surface reading" and "transitive properties", whereas what I keep saying is, context dependence is the opposite of these things and you need it to not rely on them
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Replying to @baroquespiral @hikikomorphism and
I can not imagine a context where this parphernalia would convey useful additional info towards the "dangerous cultist" appraisal (and in every case where it would further contribute to such appraisal the "dangerous cultist" conclusion would be already made based on
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Replying to @0K_ultra @baroquespiral and
as much as i enjoy how your entire take on literally any cultural phenomenon is "it is absolutely impossible to assign any meaning to this signifier under any circumstance", i have begun to wonder if there are any counterexamples to this that you'd recognize
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Replying to @adornofthagn @baroquespiral and
I dunno mate, do note that my takes are rather specific to particular phenomena and claims, and are not intended to be generalized to "all the pixels"/"all the symbols".
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Replying to @0K_ultra @adornofthagn and
like, 1) if we can agree that specifically elimination of okay sign would not be useful for elimination of white supremacism,
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Replying to @0K_ultra @adornofthagn and
2) that there is no currently known credible procedure that would allow us to CORRECTLY detect an OTHERWISE UNKNOWN whitesup specimen BY LEVERAGING contextual and careful investigation of a conspicuous OK use incident
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Replying to @0K_ultra @adornofthagn and
3) and that generally partaking in "okay is not okay" behaviour specifically is liable to be dysfunctional through making one look like a crazy church lady and by "streisanding" a hostile channer op
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Replying to @0K_ultra @adornofthagn and
Can you name a cultural phenomenon that meets all these hurdles and thus is ok for one to be concerned about?
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Replying to @hikikomorphism @adornofthagn and
I am broadly pessimistic about 1) in the general sense (as in, I am not convinced even a honest to cog ban on a set of symbols or even whole texts could produce a measurable setback to movements currently using them, at least in modern settings)
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Replying to @0K_ultra @adornofthagn and
Ok, but remember that the whole ban framing is yours and yours alone. If this set of hurdles is only relevant to that, and not to the contextual signifier thing I've been arguing for, why did you post them? Are there any contextual signifiers you believe to be valid?
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if someone comes to the show in black leather with a shaved head, he may not be a nazi, but if he gets in the pit and starts throwing punches and elbows, then he's a nazi context achieved
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