What do you mean by put out, exactly? I think there's this unfounded belief that people will get cancelled solely based on having flashed an ok sign once, but someone being asked what they meant by it doesn't really seem like an unreasonable burden.
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Replying to @hikikomorphism @adornofthagn and
But there'll certainly be plenty of situations where nobody will bother to ask what they meant by it. As in my "HR doing hiring" example. Lots of people are pretty intellectually lazy. You or I might ask, but will Pam in HR? Assuming the association becomes widespread enough.
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Replying to @Jimityjam @hikikomorphism and
here's a proposal, we can both cancel people and not be intellectually lazy -in fact, thinking that we can dispense with cancellation out of the dangers posed by laziness, is itself laziness
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Replying to @adornofthagn @Jimityjam and
I'd like cancellation to become broadly unsustainable practice because this type of practices pattern-match to societies I resent and consider only to a tiny degree more palatable than what the whitesoups want
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That's an inspiring call for the cancellation of people whose behavior you think shouldn't be allowed in your circles
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Replying to @hikikomorphism @djinnius and
do you really think anyone saying "cancellation" means "going 'omg wtf dude don't do that'" hiki i promise you can go 'omg wtf dude don't do that' at me and i will not feel even a little bit cancelled, this is my pledge to you
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Replying to @chaosprime @hikikomorphism and
where do u draw the line then, how do I have to cancel u, to be canceled?
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Replying to @adornofthagn @hikikomorphism and
i'm not married to this definition or anything but i think a reasonable minimum bar is cutting someone out of your social circle and applying social pressure for others to do likewise when it goes from boundary-setting to punishment
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Replying to @chaosprime @hikikomorphism and
this seems to set the standard that nothing can ever be punished, except the attempt to punish, which sounds,, risky
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tbh i'm only even trying to discuss consequences for affiliative symbolcrimes that only affect actual people for highly tenuous values of "affect", if somebody murdered your goldfish just take a baseball bat to their head
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Replying to @chaosprime @hikikomorphism and
that's an extreme example, more useful to ask, what is the minimum thing where punishment (exclusion) can be warranted (which is also not the same thing as 'is definitely necessary')?
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Replying to @adornofthagn @hikikomorphism and
i dunno, i don't feel like i have any chance of getting this one right but i figure there should be a lot of room for people to talk, pursue happiness, and participate in political process on this side of that line why, do you have someplace you'd put it
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