This is literally just about people like y'all trying to claim that noticing things about a context dependent subcultural signifier means that one wishes to ban that signifier in all cases, which is dumb as fuck and a core part of the right wing messaging on this issue
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Replying to @hikikomorphism @0K_ultra and
I literally don't see anything in this thread or the original one to do with "banning" the sign. Just applying social implications to it, which would only serve to fuck with a large portion of the normal population. Seems like a bad idea to me.
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Replying to @Jimityjam @hikikomorphism and
Like, what does it accomplish? DudeA: flashes ok, also talks about european identity DudeB: flashes ok. DudeA is a whitesoup due to context, but the identifier's already there in the other action. Making ok a "maybe" signifier only makes dim people think dudeB is maybe a nazi.
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Replying to @Jimityjam @hikikomorphism and
so our nuanced context sensitive analysis lets us identify people as alt-right who we already know are alt-right but you know sooner or later a DudeB is going to get set on fire
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Replying to @chaosprime @hikikomorphism and
Thanks. This is what I was trying to get at, but was missing the words.
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Replying to @Jimityjam @chaosprime and
Thanks for expressing your concerns. I strongly believe this is not a thing that will happen in the US, and if you think we're close to people getting necklaced for having once flashed an ok sign you should seek help.
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Replying to @hikikomorphism @chaosprime and
Or socially ostracized? You don't need to jump immediately to the worst possible case of misuse. It can do a lot of damage without getting folks murdered.
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Replying to @Jimityjam @chaosprime and
Interesting hypothetical that you're treating as an article of faith because some random thinkpiece Poe's law case did a false positive once.
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Replying to @hikikomorphism @chaosprime and
>once This shit happens ALL THE TIME. Not hypothetically. The dumbass thinkpieces go viral, and then people use them as reference material to 'cancel' other people. I've literally observed it happening in my own social circles. Usually occompanied by a lot of "yikes" and "oof"s.
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Replying to @Jimityjam @chaosprime and
I have literally never observed this in my social circles and I live in SF and know a bunch of left wing people, so I'm left to assume you're all going off one jpeg compressed screenshot of a Tumblr post from /r/tumblrInAction or something
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so is it that you never see people getting cancelled, or that when you see people getting cancelled it's always that they really truly were secret nazis and never score settling leveraging overcathected symbols
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Replying to @chaosprime @hikikomorphism and
There are ofc unjust cancellations and it is in fact one of my primary concerns to make the cancellation process as sensible and humane as possible but, no one is cancelled on basis of out-of-context handsigns alone and never have been
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Replying to @adornofthagn @hikikomorphism and
yes, and it would be nice if we could keep it that way by not freaking out about the fucking hand sign as opposed to, y'know, the MASS MURDER
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