I mean, i barely understood all the sociology-lingo you two are throwing, but the way I see it, associating OK with WS is a pointless line of discussion, due to the many possible uses of the sign. Most of us aren't going to give up using it just because a buncha dingbats do too.
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Replying to @Jimityjam @hikikomorphism and
Like, I'm a lifelong SCUBA diver. The OK symbol is the universal sign for "are you ok?". I'm never going to stop using it. It's part of ASL as well. So what's the point in giving it up to the huwite soups?
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Replying to @Jimityjam @hikikomorphism and
I think
@chaosprime made the point of far rightists basically claiming shit by licking it. Basically accepting the whole ok sign thing seems fruitless, because you could never use it to accurately identify a skinhead. Much like being bald. Skinheads = bald, but bald != skinheads.2 replies 0 retweets 4 likes -
Replying to @Jimityjam @0K_ultra and
Yes, you could call having a shaved head a contextual signal. Subcultures love contextual signals. Noticing them helps us better understand these subcultures.
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Replying to @hikikomorphism @Jimityjam and
This is literally just about people like y'all trying to claim that noticing things about a context dependent subcultural signifier means that one wishes to ban that signifier in all cases, which is dumb as fuck and a core part of the right wing messaging on this issue
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Replying to @hikikomorphism @0K_ultra and
I literally don't see anything in this thread or the original one to do with "banning" the sign. Just applying social implications to it, which would only serve to fuck with a large portion of the normal population. Seems like a bad idea to me.
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Replying to @Jimityjam @hikikomorphism and
Like, what does it accomplish? DudeA: flashes ok, also talks about european identity DudeB: flashes ok. DudeA is a whitesoup due to context, but the identifier's already there in the other action. Making ok a "maybe" signifier only makes dim people think dudeB is maybe a nazi.
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Replying to @Jimityjam @hikikomorphism and
so our nuanced context sensitive analysis lets us identify people as alt-right who we already know are alt-right but you know sooner or later a DudeB is going to get set on fire
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Replying to @chaosprime @hikikomorphism and
Thanks. This is what I was trying to get at, but was missing the words.
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Replying to @Jimityjam @chaosprime and
Thanks for expressing your concerns. I strongly believe this is not a thing that will happen in the US, and if you think we're close to people getting necklaced for having once flashed an ok sign you should seek help.
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we should definitely wait until that's the risk level before raising an objection
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Replying to @chaosprime @Jimityjam and
Maybe we can focus on how the people using that symbol as a subcultural signifier are doing mass murders before jumping to this hypothetical? The risk level is currently 'someone makes mean tweet' and if you think that leads to necklacing here you need to show your work.
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