whose dumb fucking idea was it anyway to not trust ourselves to defend the idea that individuals shouldn't be treated as if group tendencies were absolutes since individual variation swamps them, so we have to pretend that group tendencies don't exist, destroying all credibility
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Replying to @chaosprime
The way that we avoid treating the group tendencies as if they were absolute is to pretend that they don't exist. That's still *not enough* to compensate for bias. I'm not sure what nuanced method you have in mind?
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Replying to @chaosprime
You can phrase it so that it isn't technically a lie if that's important to you. "There's no actionable difference between group A and group B" or something.
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Replying to @terrycloth11
hardly useful, you still wind up saying "as hard as we pretend bias still doesn't go away" without any idea whether you're full of shit since you're pretending group tendencies don't exist so when you look at a survey of differential outcomes all you're allowed to see is bias
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Replying to @chaosprime
There are famous tests where they eliminated bias by making it impossible for the potentially biased selectors to get the information they'd use to bias their selection, and the differential outcomes went away.
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Replying to @terrycloth11 @chaosprime
When this can't be replicated in the real world by just telling people not to be biased, the conclusion is kind of obvious.
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how's that replication in the research world doing
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