yes, but only as a device toward getting Keith to do what she wanted
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Replying to @chaosprime @delysis and
wait, so the scheme operated like "tell you about her suffering so you would do stuff so that guy would want to come back to her so she can break up with you and come back to him"?
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not the breaking up with me part, we hadn't been together for a long time at that point and were just friends, but using me as a plague carrier, sure see, the rules in the relevant social circles are we care about people who are hurt, so if she hurts enough she gets her way
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Replying to @chaosprime @0K_ultra and
and dgmw, she was suffering, exactly the same way as if somebody repeatedly pokes themselves in the chest and abdomen with a sharp needle they'll suffer
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Replying to @chaosprime @delysis and
well, I'm not entirely sure this counts as fake consequences. Claiming smoking is harmless is faking consequences. Claiming sexy pixels/porn cause sexism is faking consequences. This... seems to be something else.
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those are less substantial levels of fake, yes. this is manufactured consequences, which is a more concrete variety. like, if you nail a narwhal horn to a horse's forehead, it's still a real horse, and it's still a fake unicorn
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Replying to @chaosprime @delysis and
I'm kind of not sure people have this much executive control over their emotional states and cognition, as a rule. Like, I don't think all people have necessary parts to willingly "get over", a bit like not everyone has the "parts" needed to do "not minding that it hurts" trick
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my best guess is that almost everybody does in potential and a modest majority have a meaningful amount of the capacity in practice. idk. i'm quite certain she does
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Replying to @chaosprime @0K_ultra and
to be clear i don't mean decisionmaking all the way up at the verbal level that people generally limit their acceptance of responsibility to, i mean the deep routines recognizing that there is an opportunity for power in an emotional stance and rerouting to optimize for it
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nope, totally unrelated! i also do not know what is going on
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