tell that to my ex who still thinks to this day that how much it hurts her for Keith DeCandido of all fucking people to have broken up with her demonstrates that he is wrong to have done it and should change his rotten ways
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Replying to @chaosprime @danlistensto and
each individual word is known to me yet the sequence contains no identifiable message. More seriously I don't know enough about Keith or your ex to even identify who is in the business of faking consequences here.
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Replying to @0K_ultra @danlistensto and
basically this was the most over-the-top example imaginable of someone unambiguously farming their own suffering in the attempt to use it to coerce someone else into doing their bidding amazing what just knowing with certainty that people are like that does to your politics
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Replying to @chaosprime @0K_ultra and
Checking for understanding: So (having googled Keith) a star trek novel author dumped your ex and your ex articulated that as a GROSS INJUSTICE to get you to do what she wanted?
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yes, but only as a device toward getting Keith to do what she wanted
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Replying to @chaosprime @delysis and
wait, so the scheme operated like "tell you about her suffering so you would do stuff so that guy would want to come back to her so she can break up with you and come back to him"?
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not the breaking up with me part, we hadn't been together for a long time at that point and were just friends, but using me as a plague carrier, sure see, the rules in the relevant social circles are we care about people who are hurt, so if she hurts enough she gets her way
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Replying to @chaosprime @0K_ultra and
and dgmw, she was suffering, exactly the same way as if somebody repeatedly pokes themselves in the chest and abdomen with a sharp needle they'll suffer
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Replying to @chaosprime @delysis and
well, I'm not entirely sure this counts as fake consequences. Claiming smoking is harmless is faking consequences. Claiming sexy pixels/porn cause sexism is faking consequences. This... seems to be something else.
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those are less substantial levels of fake, yes. this is manufactured consequences, which is a more concrete variety. like, if you nail a narwhal horn to a horse's forehead, it's still a real horse, and it's still a fake unicorn
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i'm not saying she wasn't legitimately upset by getting dumped. but there's letting yourself get over that and there's cultivating your unhappiness into a weapon
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