No, it doesn’t. Medical mistakes are harmful and not malicious. I agree with you that unconscious harm is a bigger problem (at least in many contexts and probably on net) than conscious harm, but a successful surgery (onethat leaves the patient better off) isn’t either of those.
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Replying to @delysis @danlistensto and
two surgeons: one understands himself to be causing me a harm so he can do what he needs to do, doing it, and then doing his best to rectify the harm, which i will still have to recover from one understands himself to not be doing me any harm #2? keep that psycho away from me
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Replying to @chaosprime @delysis and
clinging to a definition of harm that nobody here is using
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Replying to @danlistensto @delysis and
weirdly my count is different has anybody proffered a definition? apparently severe, debilitating bodily injury isn't harm if we consider the subject to be better off for it. why you'd want so exploitable a definition idk, but is there more to it?
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Replying to @chaosprime @delysis and
Intent + outcome which I thought was implied in my prior post
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Replying to @danlistensto @delysis and
wait how the fuck did you trick me into arguing deontology while you argue virtue ethics + consequentialism oh right you're a wizard
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Replying to @anomicca @chaosprime and
that is a very kind thing of you to say. thank you.
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Replying to @danlistensto @anomicca and
y'know what i bet we can all agree *isn't* enlightenment, is portentous emperor's-new-clothes maundering about mystical qualities resembling those of famous figures of reverence, or any other form of carnival-barker illuminism
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Replying to @chaosprime @danlistensto and
Well, evidently that’s another sense in which the word is used by at least one person summoned to this thread, so in greater than zero contexts that is what is meant. In my book that makes it another (albeit niche and to my mind regrettable) extant sense of the word.
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oh, i probably should have said all of us whom this conversation is among rather than about
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Replying to @chaosprime @danlistensto and
Well, yeah, I expect it isn’t a way any of us would use the word, but insofar as it’s a meaning in the vernacular, I expect we can recognize and understand it when that is what is being signaled (as evidence: none of us have yet fed the troll).
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Replying to @delysis @danlistensto and
why entertain him when it's so much easier to leave him helpless?
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