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    1. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Feb 20
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      harm that's remedied isn't harm that hasn't taken place neither is harm that's better than the alternative. the doctor doesn't put your gangrenous hand back together at all

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    2. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Feb 20
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      defining surgery as non-harm just reduces "harm" to a tautology because it only occurs with malice, which is demonstrated by the existence of the harm. so your guru could never have harmed you because he has no malice in him

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    3. Delysis‏ @delysis Feb 20
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      No, it doesn’t. Medical mistakes are harmful and not malicious. I agree with you that unconscious harm is a bigger problem (at least in many contexts and probably on net) than conscious harm, but a successful surgery (onethat leaves the patient better off) isn’t either of those.

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    4. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Feb 20
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      two surgeons: one understands himself to be causing me a harm so he can do what he needs to do, doing it, and then doing his best to rectify the harm, which i will still have to recover from one understands himself to not be doing me any harm #2? keep that psycho away from me

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    5. Dan listens to the churning atmosphere‏ @danlistensto Feb 20
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      clinging to a definition of harm that nobody here is using

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    6. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Feb 20
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      weirdly my count is different has anybody proffered a definition? apparently severe, debilitating bodily injury isn't harm if we consider the subject to be better off for it. why you'd want so exploitable a definition idk, but is there more to it?

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    7. Dan listens to the churning atmosphere‏ @danlistensto Feb 20
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      Intent + outcome which I thought was implied in my prior post

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    8. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Feb 20
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      wait how the fuck did you trick me into arguing deontology while you argue virtue ethics + consequentialism oh right you're a wizard

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    10. Dan listens to the churning atmosphere‏ @danlistensto Feb 20
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      Replying to @anomicca @chaosprime and

      that is a very kind thing of you to say. thank you.

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      Chaos‏ @chaosprime Feb 20
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      y'know what i bet we can all agree *isn't* enlightenment, is portentous emperor's-new-clothes maundering about mystical qualities resembling those of famous figures of reverence, or any other form of carnival-barker illuminism

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        2. Delysis‏ @delysis Feb 20
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          Well, evidently that’s another sense in which the word is used by at least one person summoned to this thread, so in greater than zero contexts that is what is meant. In my book that makes it another (albeit niche and to my mind regrettable) extant sense of the word.

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        3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Feb 20
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          oh, i probably should have said all of us whom this conversation is among rather than about

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