so if you want to get your own shit chosen for the pedestal, well, you might just have to knife the person in front of you to get that. I doubt they are as self-consciously Machiavellian about it but that is operant at a subconscious level.
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Replying to @danlistensto @eigenrobot
my impression is a lot like yours, not many people operating at a "planning" level, vast numbers of people desperate for a leg up and mimicking whatever they see getting attention and approval at a level way prior to "if this then that"
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Replying to @chaosprime @eigenrobot
the one piece that I can't quite fit into this hypothesis is why the sociopaths find it so so easy to recruit online rage mobs to do their bidding. why does some rando on the internet want to participate in that?
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shitting on outgroup together feels really really really good
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um. these people don't exactly give me the impression of being full of euphoria or any other pleasant sensation. quite the opposite. seems more like they're stuck in a self-harm loop.
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idk, i think there is a joy to the mob takedown, but there are people trapped in it too, it's not like you can opt out or god fucking forbid defy the mobile vulgus if you want to be one of the people who gets to crowdsurf their way to solvency
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Replying to @chaosprime @danlistensto and
and to some extent if people seem miserable it's because the ideological commitments being exploited are about elevating the miserable so if you want to be elevated better find a reason you're not just miserable but more miserable than the next person
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right this is easy to observe in the wild. the competition to be the biggest victim. the most damaged. the most aggrieved. perhaps this is commented on too much because it's easy to notice and seems transparently bad. I want to develop insight into how that meme takes hold.
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Replying to @danlistensto @chaosprime and
if you tell someone: "pain is salvation and you are currently damned" they will self-flagellate until their skin is flayed. in past eras this was done in a different religious context. is the real problem here the cult-like religiosity or...? I really just don't get this one.
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Replying to @danlistensto @chaosprime and
clarification: not just any someone. this doesn't work on most people. there is a specific sort of person that really goes in for this and they are as psychologically opaque to me as a granite wall.
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what if Myers-Briggs SJs are really into SJ
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Replying to @chaosprime @danlistensto and
what if Myers-Briggs NTs aren’t really NT?
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