Oh, exactly. And I'm not here to argue that climate change isn't about the grift for everyone. Just that that's not all there is, and that both sides of the binary (climate change is pure grift vs. climate change is our generation's totally pure and good crusade thingy) are wrong
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Replying to @hikikomorphism @eigenrobot
the pure and good people are worse than the grifters because the "good" that animates them is bucket crab homeostasis maintenance
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Replying to @chaosprime @eigenrobot
So being sincerely dedicated to homeostasis as applied to the life support system we all rely on is.. bad? Incandescent take.
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Replying to @hikikomorphism @eigenrobot
insofar as people are willing or enthused to murder the baby (technical civilization) so that it doesn't get the bathwater (idk a bunch of trees and shit) dirty, yes which is like 98% of the Movement
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I don't think 98% is an accurate statement and that you have probably been exposed to outrage-mongering on this subject consistent with your prior beliefs and biases
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I honestly think "sustainability" and "preservation of biosphere as it is" are stupid ideas as inherent qualities, and interaction with griefting and westerner puritan maymays make them much worse
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Replying to @0K_ultra @chaosprime and
I understand your opposition to conservationism (though I disagree with it). What is your opposition to sustainability?
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nothing is really meaningfully sustainable in absolute, and the paleontological record is littered with evidence of stuff failing to live up to this ideal long before humans came around and decoded to shit this poor rock up :)
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Well, sort of but not really. But do note that desiring planetary sustainability is a lot like paranoidally fearing death. To some extent avoiding death is normal and pragmatic. But seeking to avoid death as primary goal is kinda pathetic, and eventually futile
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