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    1. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 19 Dec 2018
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      progressives lowkey & not so lowkey hate old school socialists like Trotskyists because those are committed to the liberation of the working class, not to eradication of masculinity and/or whiteness, which for every practical purpose in contemporary politics makes them right-wing

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    2. Ed O'Gremlin‏ @NedGilmore 19 Dec 2018
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      Not loving the flat out substitution of progressive for liberal in this tweet.

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    3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 19 Dec 2018
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      i mean... they're fairly distinct beasts, and the reasons libs hate (all) commies are pretty different from the reasons progs hate (unwoke) commies

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    4. Ed O'Gremlin‏ @NedGilmore 19 Dec 2018
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      Progs are at least a tiny bit on the side of the liberation of the working class though, at least as far as some practical measures like healthcare, education, and unions go.

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    5. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 19 Dec 2018
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      sure, as long as you demonstrate that you're on side about the important things

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    6. Ed O'Gremlin‏ @NedGilmore 19 Dec 2018
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      I just don't quite see how the people regular bashed as 'Bernie Bros' are also the prime movers in a supposed assault on masculinity.

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    7. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 19 Dec 2018
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      why are berniebros hated if not, explicitly, for putting class before race and sex? definitely not mapping prog to berniebro here

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    8. Ed O'Gremlin‏ @NedGilmore 19 Dec 2018
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      That's what I'm taking issue with though. How are you defining progressive - which to my mind is a lot more economic and a lot less identity - vs. liberal, which nowdays is almost completely identity and nothing economic?

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    9. Chaos‏ @chaosprime 19 Dec 2018
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      oh, are you using 1930s "progressive" or whatnot? the word has been completely taken over by identity for a decade, easy, and i can't see any point in trying to fight the popular usage. does actually sound like we're using the terms exactly oppositely, which would explain a lot

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    10. Ed O'Gremlin‏ @NedGilmore 19 Dec 2018
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      Yes we are at extremely cross purposes here. It's stupid that words don't always mean what we want them to mean. However, ime there is a growing movement to retake the meaning of 'progressive' and it should be encouraged.

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      Chaos‏ @chaosprime 19 Dec 2018
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      i can't muster much giveafuck about what happens to the word one way or another but anything that makes us all mutually incomprehensible is all to the good i'm sure

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        1. Ed O'Gremlin‏ @NedGilmore 19 Dec 2018
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          It's certainly all to the chaos.

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