just when you thought definitions of utilitarianism couldn't get any more concise without sacrificing accuracy
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Replying to @chaosprime @Tunamle and
why do y'alls hate on utilitarians so much? They are a harmless math nerd moral theory
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if you let harmless math nerds hang around having moral theories long enough eventually somebody tries to implement one of them
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Replying to @chaosprime @Tunamle and
honestly, I strongly doubt that any serious mischief ~started~ with heady math nerd theories, and I doubt that there ever was a serious utilitarian villain (they seem a bit too easy to imagine and a bit hard to come by)
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well, things starting is fake anyway any villain who talked about the greater good was some extent of utilitarian villain though
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Replying to @chaosprime @Tunamle and
That extends the definition of "utilitarian" wide enough to cover not only all of consequentialism but also a solid chunk of deontology, and also most of the creeping metastatic cancer that is "care" ethics
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if the greatest-good-for-the-greatest-number shoe fits
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Replying to @chaosprime @0K_ultra and
of course in my way of looking at things reducibility to utilitarianism is a lethal own, since it means you're almost certainly the repugnant conclusion's bitch
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Replying to @chaosprime @0K_ultra and
I hate on utilitarianism 'cos it represents an attempt to reduce values, preferences, & the good life to something like numbers in a formula, when in reality values are fuzzy, preferences change, and the good life emerges from a process of discovery in a community of souls.
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Replying to @PereGrimmer @chaosprime and
Anything can be reduced to a formula. The problem with utilitarianism is that the problem is underspecified so the utilitarian will have some choices to make when deciding which formula to reduce it to. They tend to choose badly.
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sometimes the time and space complexity of the formula is of the same order as the original phenomenon
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Replying to @chaosprime @PereGrimmer and
This is so, but maybe a close approximation is possible, to within a very small hedonic margin say an ice cream cone or inverse of a stubbed toe. "Those who skip dessert in Omelas"
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Replying to @reighleyc @chaosprime and
I think the calculation objection to communism applies here, but with even greater force.
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