which end of the scale you consider more important reveals the way similarity to you was snuck in the back way
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Replying to @chaosprime @SatyreContraire
You’re not great at guessing my justifications.
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Replying to @RealtimeAI @SatyreContraire
working hard at finding a way to live with it
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Replying to @chaosprime @SatyreContraire
Matt Guttman Retweeted Chaos
I’m curious about your actual views, though. Is chauvinism supposed to be a moral commentary? But I though morality was subjective and determined by power relations alone? Did you somehow get the idea that I’m advocating that progressive gobblety-gook?https://twitter.com/chaosprime/status/1069645685123895296?s=20 …
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Chaos @chaosprimeReplying to @chaosprime @SatyreContraireprioritizing lifeforms based on how similar they are to you is just blatant chauvinism by basic progressive values, uplifting of the most oppressed, the greatest commitment is demanded for protection of the most oppressed lifeforms, which is to say, plants, fungi, and bacteria2 replies 0 retweets 1 like -
Replying to @RealtimeAI @SatyreContraire
my actual views are that we are the apex predators of this planet and we should work out how to understand ourselves healthily in that context instead of recoiling from it because we want to be nice like the soft harmless prey animals
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Replying to @chaosprime @SatyreContraire
Okay, but then what determines whether the way we “understand ourselves” is “healthy” or not? It seems like that criteria will become the true morality from which to judge the “how to understand” described in the first part.
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Replying to @RealtimeAI @SatyreContraire
my personal intuition so yeah that works out well for me
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Replying to @chaosprime @SatyreContraire
Okay, sure. But then, it’s not really a moral framework, right? It’s just a more complicated way of resolving all moral questions by referring to your personal intuition.
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Chaos Retweeted Chaos
so, the best possible moral frameworkhttps://twitter.com/chaosprime/status/1067823910702350336 …
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Replying to @chaosprime @SatyreContraire
Mostly agree with that heuristic! But, I think you’re overvaluing the heuristic because you’re jaded by ideologues who ignore that heuristic. Our minds are the most complex things in the known universe. Intuitions are a good place to start asking “why do I feel that way?”
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your analysis is unironically impeccable while my formulation is of course hyperbolic, i have learned to trust the quiet parts of myself better than the yappity yappity parts, though
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