I was talking about for personal usage. I'm aware of its usage in farming. Worth noting, too, small rodents and birds are - generally speaking - considered less important than more intelligent animals by most. Most of it is about /minimisation/ of harm, though.
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Do you have some reason to believe that a mouse is less intelligent or capable of suffering than a cow? My understanding is that an individual mouse is *more* neurologically sophisticated than a cow.
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Replying to @chaosprime @SatyreContraire
No clue what you mean by “this”, or “prey morality”. Although it sounds suspiciously likely to be Neo-Nietzschean “might makes right” meta-ethic.
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Replying to @RealtimeAI @SatyreContraire
this: hierarchies of moral significance by neural similarity to the speaker prey morality: construction by analogy with Nietzschean slave morality
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Replying to @chaosprime @SatyreContraire
The scale is not similarly to me, the scale is an objective measure of complexity / sophistication. Humans happen to be the highest such being on this planet at the moment. But, denial of such an objective measure works well with the implied “power-only” moral relativism.
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Replying to @RealtimeAI @SatyreContraire
which end of the scale you consider more important reveals the way similarity to you was snuck in the back way
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Replying to @chaosprime @SatyreContraire
You’re not great at guessing my justifications.
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Replying to @RealtimeAI @SatyreContraire
working hard at finding a way to live with it
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Replying to @chaosprime @SatyreContraire
Matt Guttman Retweeted Chaos
I’m curious about your actual views, though. Is chauvinism supposed to be a moral commentary? But I though morality was subjective and determined by power relations alone? Did you somehow get the idea that I’m advocating that progressive gobblety-gook?https://twitter.com/chaosprime/status/1069645685123895296?s=20 …
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Chaos @chaosprimeReplying to @chaosprime @SatyreContraireprioritizing lifeforms based on how similar they are to you is just blatant chauvinism by basic progressive values, uplifting of the most oppressed, the greatest commitment is demanded for protection of the most oppressed lifeforms, which is to say, plants, fungi, and bacteria2 replies 0 retweets 1 like
my actual views are that we are the apex predators of this planet and we should work out how to understand ourselves healthily in that context instead of recoiling from it because we want to be nice like the soft harmless prey animals
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Replying to @chaosprime @SatyreContraire
Okay, but then what determines whether the way we “understand ourselves” is “healthy” or not? It seems like that criteria will become the true morality from which to judge the “how to understand” described in the first part.
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Replying to @RealtimeAI @SatyreContraire
my personal intuition so yeah that works out well for me
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