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    Chaos‏ @chaosprime Oct 15

    fantasy novels lean on clones of IRL cultures so much because inventing folk knowledge of a culture unlike your own is a staggering cognitive feat, @StevenBrust is either good at it or fakes it well using Magyarisms, the other ones i can think of are LeGuin, Wolfe, and Jemisin

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      2. TheNothingNew‏ @TheNothingNew Oct 15
        Replying to @chaosprime

        Fully agree. Someone pointed me toward Brust two months ago and I can't put his stuff down. The plots are pretty standard fantasy stuff, but the characters are good and the worlds are enthralling.

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      3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Oct 15
        Replying to @TheNothingNew

        lol keep going, there is some... experimentation with plot in your future

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      4. boo to you, spooky devil‏ @davidhsiegel Oct 15
        Replying to @chaosprime @TheNothingNew

        Understatement of the cycle.

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      5. Joseph Poulin‏ @JosephLPoulin Oct 15
        Replying to @davidhsiegel @chaosprime @TheNothingNew

        “Wait, we’re using *what* style of storytelling this time??” Though I loved both “The One That Was A Laundry List” and “The One Where The Character Sat In Front Of A Window The Whole Book”. ;)

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      2. Morgan‏ @rhoark Oct 15
        Replying to @chaosprime @StevenBrust

        What by LeGuin are you thinking of? Earthsea just brownwashed the Irish.

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      3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Oct 15
        Replying to @rhoark @StevenBrust

        oh damn, shots fired i was thinking of The Left Hand of Darkness, The Dispossessed (fantasy, sf, potato, antimatter reactor) and the broad cultural inventiveness in The Compass Rose

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      2. Chaotician Drac‏ @ChaoticianDrac Oct 15
        Replying to @chaosprime @StevenBrust

        Still, it should be possible if someone were to set their mind to it and focus long-term on the synthesis

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      3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Oct 15
        Replying to @ChaoticianDrac @StevenBrust

        yeah but i dare you to say "focus long-term on the synthesis" to your editor

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      4. Chaotician Drac‏ @ChaoticianDrac Oct 15
        Replying to @chaosprime @StevenBrust

        Haha

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      2. Michael R. Bernstein‏ @nerdworldorder Oct 15
        Replying to @chaosprime @StevenBrust

        How about Delaney?

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      3. Chaos‏ @chaosprime Oct 15
        Replying to @nerdworldorder @StevenBrust

        man i haven't read him in so long but my gut says yes

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      4. Michael R. Bernstein‏ @nerdworldorder Oct 15
        Replying to @chaosprime @StevenBrust

        Stars in my pocket like grains of sand. Totally worth a reread.

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      2. Killer Robot Bastard‏ @Robot_Bastard Oct 15
        Replying to @chaosprime

        The issue is that it's really hard to avoid charges of cultural appropriation when you do this.

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      3. masquerobot‏ @eigenrobot Oct 15
        Replying to @Robot_Bastard @chaosprime

        just gotta use dead cultures i think

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      4. John C. George‏ @JohnCGeorge2 Oct 15
        Replying to @eigenrobot @Robot_Bastard @chaosprime

        Or cultures you're part of; see Elizabeth Boyer's fantasies based on Icelandic myths.

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      2. Steven Brust‏Verified account @StevenBrust Oct 15
        Replying to @chaosprime

        For a truly spectacular job of inventing a folk culture, there's this: http://bestfantasybooks.com/blog/review-a-saga-of-the-reindeer-people-by-megan-lindholm/ …

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      3. Harry Maroudas‏ @hmaroudas Oct 15
        Replying to @StevenBrust @chaosprime

        Harry Harrison's Eden series is great too for that too.

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      4. Harry Maroudas‏ @hmaroudas Oct 15
        Replying to @hmaroudas @StevenBrust @chaosprime

        How many toos can I shoehorn in a sentence?

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      1. Tikitu de Jager‏ @tTikitu Oct 15
        Replying to @chaosprime @StevenBrust

        JM McDermott's Dogsland trilogy I think pulls this off. Some Kij Johnson shorts too. It's not the flashy stuff but the solidity.

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