I am slightly confused - what’s the difference between liberal and libertarian in the American usage of these terms?
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Replying to @thedevarsh @sonyaellenmann
short answer: the difference is immense and vast longer answer: libertarian in the American usage implies a strong support for civil rights and individual liberties, topics which are considered of tertiary interest at best outside of that small group.
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Replying to @palecur @thedevarsh
Liberal: Let's use the government to improve everyone's lives. Libertarian: Let's keep the government out of everyone's lives so we can improve things on our own. (Modulo civil rights and contracts)
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Replying to @sonyaellenmann @palecur
Libertarian does not sound bad, just more fiscally conservative with even more social & personal freedom tbh. Then why does SV dislike someone like Thiel? Whose views basically are pro-startups. Is it his support for Republicans?
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Replying to @thedevarsh @sonyaellenmann
Well, that and his personal terribleness infects any causes he supports. He's also broadly perceived as not supporting individual liberty *in general*, just for him and his interests in specific, and doesn't care about/supports restrictions on his enemies.
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Replying to @palecur @thedevarsh
I don't know Thiel personally and it's unclear to me what he akshually believes, but yeah, his publicly stated positions seem more strategic than sincere or principled
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if you founded a defense contractor you don't get to call yourself a libertarian, IMHO
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Interesting. He has publicly shared in some interview(s) that he founded Palantir to help reduce defense spending on overseas campaigns of US and that he doesn’t personally support overseas wars. Not sure if these are his strategic views (as
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He's somewhat enigmatic / opaque / secretive and seems to have a Machiavellian streak so it's hard to tell
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fucking V:tM larpers man
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