"Do you support violent revolution?" You know what? I'm really tired of those who justify, or at best are silent about, the legalized execution of workers by bomb or policeman wagging their moralizing fingers about the masses using violence to defend themselves. Bugger off.
somewhat. liberty and equality (as formulated prior to equality-of-outcome redistributive identity politics) are pretty clearly negative rights; freedom from intrusive compulsion in the conduct of life, freedom from the imposition of de jure social class
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By that definition, then I guess they are all negative rights? Or, rather, what is a positive right as you're defining it?
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an entitlement to an economic good. a right to health care; a right to bread; a right to housing; the right to ponies that the Democratic Party is so dead-set against despite ponies being really quite affordable
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I'm not yet convinced there is that sort of hard line. I mean, "Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of happiness." Positive or negative. Right to life means you don't get to kill me, does it also mean I'm entitled to bread and health care? What about an end to a war? Pos. or neg?
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it all depends on what you mean, sure; as alluded to earlier you can stow away all kinds of positive rights in "equality" if you're motivated, and as you say, a negative right to life is very different from a positive right to life
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do we conceive of a right to, what, have the world around one not have war in it? that's a negative. if we conceive of a right to *live* in a world without war that gets stickier
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In practice, then, I believe more and more things (positive and negative) have become generally accepted as "human rights." We even have a word for someone who thinks this is bad: reactionary. +
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fraternity might be a positive right but i dunno if the idea was that anybody should be entitled to it so much as that it shouldn't be violently suppressed, which brings us back to negative territory
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It isn't quite as important to me to distinguish between positive and negative rights as it is to build up or tear down the institutions that defend and/or supply them, such that there is a comfortable balance between them. Today, unions could use a boost. Tomorrow? Who knows?
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