"Do you support violent revolution?" You know what? I'm really tired of those who justify, or at best are silent about, the legalized execution of workers by bomb or policeman wagging their moralizing fingers about the masses using violence to defend themselves. Bugger off.
which of those conflicts produced lasting social structures relates a lot to whether they were focused on negative rights or positive rights, innit?
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Mmm. No. In all the revolutions that come to mind, both are involved, both affect the thinking of the masses. EG the French Revolution: Negative rights: remove the arbitrary powers of the aristocracy. Positive rights, "Liberty, Equality, Fraternity." Or am I missing your point?
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I don't think they can be neatly separated during something as complex and Earth-shaking as a revolutionary transformation. As a rule, revolution is followed by a step back in positive rights. But not a step back all the way. Progress is made. Yay incrementalism!
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with negative rights, violence works great, you just apply violence to anyone crossing the lines. with positive rights, you're now trying to use violence to compel economic activity, which will only work if a spectacularly complex system works exactly the way you think it does
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traditionally, the way this is approached is that you decide you know how the system works, task someone with operating it, and shoot them when they aren't sufficient administrative geniuses to produce the results you wanted while also making it look as if your model is correct
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Sorry, where did this happen?
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the Soviet Union loved that shit, but basically everywhere. it isn't a feature of any economic approach, it's a feature of authoritarianism; it's also the Trump Management Style
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"Authoritarianism" is a pretty vague term, and moreover one that leaves out the important questions: authority of which social class against which, and for what reason, produced by what conflicts under what circumstances?
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well i'm glad we've dispensed with vagueness
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Yeah, thank christ for that.
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